This week’s blog is a week behind schedule as after I played the WPT500 at DTD, I had to shoot off to play Battle Of Malta at short notice when a package floated my way. Lucky me.
I am a massive advocate of the WPT500 format. I believe that it is reasonable for micro-tards like me to aim for that as a playing-up buyin. £500 is a golden amount because it’s low enough that I can qualify, but high enough to lay on a guarantee that attracts serious, higher-stakes players who are tempted by a fishy field full of muppets like me.
Given that this tournament falls in such a sweet spot, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to suppose it would smash the £1mil guarantee… but it didn’t.
The night before the last entry day, Trumper was running about in the club, squawking that 1200 runners were needed to hit guarantee! How the fuck did that happen?
I have a few ideas, and guess what, I’m going to share them.
This is an independent blog, and these are my opinions, so if you expect the bum-licking tone you encounter on the PartyPoker/WPT blog, you’re going to be disappointed.
Let’s start with what DTD do right. Firstly, the venue is polished, when my normal game is in run-down, ratty local cardrooms, it’s a joy to play in a place where all the equipment is well maintained and, even in a massive event, every dealer sits on a proper chair. Aspirational psychology is a vital part of poker, and the superbly presented venue is a key factor in making the journey worthwhile.
The reception and cash desk teams are really helpful and know more about the poker product than any reception/cash desk team I have ever dealt with. Well done guys, keep it up.
The floor staff are pretty good, they always look busy, and Brodsky is one of those super-stealth TDs where you don’t always see him, but suddenly he’s there, looming over any potential trouble like a rule-book toting spectre. It’s very important that low stakes players, playing above their level, feel confident in the floor staff, because they are not confident to argue their own case if they think something has gone wrong.

DTD are committed to bringing women into the game with the appointment of the “Ladies of DTD” organiser, Rachel Henegahan. This is great to see, and I have showed my respect for this move by offering to help wherever I can; Rachel’s a top bird, and I’m sure we’ll see interesting things from her in the coming months.
So what’s to complain about?
Brace yourselves.
The dates of the WPT500 were a bit of a secret. When I booked my hotel in June (early to get a feasible price for a £500 event) I made my best guess based on last year’s dates as the DTD website showed “TBC” with regards to the dates of the WPT500 2015.
I know why they do it, it’s so other operators don’t put events on at the same time. Wah; stick your fucking necks out.
Grosvenor Casinos publish the GUKPT and 25/25 schedule at the start of the year. DTD think other operators will try to undermine them because they have tried that themselves in the past.
If the largest poker operator in the UK can publish event schedules 12 months in advance, so can DTD; if this is so difficult, then maybe DTD just is not up to the job of running events like this.
Stop trying to be fucking clever, book the events early, publish the dates, and let people know what’s happening. Why the FUCK should we all sit around like salivating puppies, waiting for a scrap from the master? You want my money, my loyalty? GIVE ME THE DAMN INFORMATION.

What in the boiling lakes of hell was the deal with the online satellites? In theory, micro-players can qualify for the event for 1p, and this is an AMAZING pull for the micro market… assuming the organisers make it clear how to do it, which in this case, they didn’t.
Branded sattys for this tournament were only available on PartyPoker one month before. One stinking month, which is no time at all to try to run 1p up to £550. As a micro qualifier, I have to plan a long way ahead- I started trying to qualify for Battle Of Malta (550euros) in February 2015- seven months ahead.
After some discussion at the tables at DTD, it turns out I could have started earlier, saved tickets and used them when the branded sattys appeared… perhaps the DTD site/Twitter feed could have told me that instead? Or perhaps the branded sattys should have been pushed earlier?
Either, or both, would have been preferable to not pushing any qualifiers until 4 weeks before and then interrupting me play with desperate in-club microphone announcements about massive overlays.
Er… yeah… we’re all here already, too little to late, you fools!
Also, where were the packages? I’m so committed to this tournament, I booked my hotel in June, and just crossed my fingers that I’d win a seat, which I did in the end, but I had the resources to do this, not many micro-players do.
Other tournament brands at this level offer package satellites, because they want to open up the market, and attract players from all over the world. The WPT500 field was predominantly English (or British resident), and I can only assume that is because foreign players want the ease of qualifying for a full package.
The 1805 runner BoM field was packed with package qualifiers from everywhere, some had their flights booked 6 months before the event. You want to meet your guarantees? Think about how you’re going to do it earlier than the night before the final day one, honestly, it’s retarded!

In the week of the event, there were massive gtd online satties, all with silly value, so DTD probably think they did their bit and put the money in, it must be the “lack-lustre poker players” (fuck you, Yong, that comment really hurt), who don’t care enough about the game.
The real situation of low-stakes/hobby players is that they can’t just qualify on a Thursday and then disappear at short notice on a Friday for four days of poker, stumping up for travel and hotels. They have jobs/partners/families and this is not how hobbies work in the context of real life. Know the extremities of your market, DTD; why didn’t you spread all those seats over the previous months and give people a chance to include you in their busy lives?
PartyPoker is just a terrible site. The lobbies are clunky, the site freezes mid-game every five minutes, the “live help” is not helpful, or alive. When you win a ticket, you can’t see it straight away which makes one nervous, my HUD doesn’t work properly on there, the tourney structures are crappity; it’s just a bad site to play on, not the worst, but the worst I’ve been forced onto because I have a passion for a live event.
Okay, I’m a PStars nut, so I’m probably biased, but a few hours playing on PartyPoker is the best advert PStars have. PartyPoker can bite me, hard.
This year, there were no same day re-entries, and the live blog gushed about how Rob Yong was so moral in his decision to “offer the online players the same product as live players”. It is, indeed, an honourable philosophy, but surely the answer was to offer same-flight re-entry to the online players too, not take it away from the live players!

What could have possibly informed that retardation? Oh… PartyPoker software not up to it? That must be it, otherwise I think it’s fair to say that Rob Yong is moral, but mental, and should be stopped from making executive decisions ASAP.
The final insult is the lack of mobility of won seats. If I win a seat, I should be able to do what I want with it. I can understand not allowing the value to escape your brand, but if I want to transfer the seat to a friend, how dare you try to tell me that I can’t?
I’d have tried to win more seats, if I’d known I could sell them on, or give them away through my website. If I win it, it’s mine, and you need to let me have control of it.
Grosvenor Casinos have nailed this with the advent of the Grosvenor Poker Vouchers earlier this year- they keep all the satellite money within the brand, but players have full control of that money- everybody’s happy.
Aside from the poker issues around this particular event, I think DTD has problems in other areas:
The F+B function is crazy, it’s the only casino I’ve ever been in that charges for soft-drinks and coffee (which tastes like piss for £2 btw). When I first went to DTD, it was not a casino, it was a cardroom with no machines/tables. I didn’t mind paying for a drink then, because they weren’t making money in the same way casino cardrooms were and I wanted to support them. DTD is now a casino, and I can’t see any reason they are so special that they should charge me £2 for a cup of brown piss.
The valets are terrible, they are fit as fuck, obvs, and I’m a big fan of the teeny tiny shorts, but if you hire a load of promo girls and give them trays, then you are wasting money. The most drinks I saw on one tray was three. If DTD got some proper waitresses instead, hired for experience and ability, then they could probably halve their “valet” wage bill.
They’ve tried to double up the waitresses as promo models, and it’s not working, they are neither one thing nor the other.

The food is expensive and not great. At BoM, every player was given a voucher for a buffet very similar to the buffet at DTD, shit food is fine by me if I’m not paying for it, but I’m not stumping up £10 for some soggy carbs and a slither of flaccid, unspecified meat, not when there’s a Nandos across the road! They want to be an aspirational casino venue, but they also want to treat us all like plebs when we get there; nice.
I’m sure Rob Yong and Simon Trumper will claim they are not a casino, they are a cardroom, but the fact is, they are paying for a casino licence, which is a sick amount of money, and they have machines and tables- they are a casino.
The casino product is massively flawed, and they are missing income.
I’ll start with the live pit, again, gorgeous dealers in tiny shorts, that haven’t got a fucking clue. It took one beautiful creature 60 seconds to work out how to pay me for a split and a straight up, and then she couldn’t pass the chips out properly. If you are that bad as a dealer, the shorts are not enough, you need to be naked, and spin that ball by shooting it out your fanny.
At a rough count, she was spinning 12 times an hour, a spin every five minutes on a fairly quiet game: that is not how the house makes money at Roulette.
The dealers and inspectors chat too much, the games are slow and dull, and the overall standards in the pit are poor; what’s the goal? To have the available players perve on the half-dressed dealers, or for the pit to make money? From where I stood, it was not clear.
The slots/electronic AR machines are scattered all over the shop, whilst the “Trickett Lounge” seems to be a store room. Don’t be thick. Move the electronic gaming into there, drop the sticky homage to one British guy who had some well-timed rungood, and take the casino product seriously.

Does DTD have any players who come just for the casino? I doubt it. I love to play slots, but after busting one night, I taxied into town to play slots at The Alea, because they have a proper slots area, and I’m not forced to sit by the shitter with poker players arguing about equity right behind me. In addition, DTD have none of the newest machines; why should I play slots there when it’s obvious that they don’t give a fuck about me?
I know the original philosophy of DTD was NOT to be a traditional casino, but now it’s apparent that they have to operate in that way, why aren’t they maximising that income stream to ensure longevity? Are they digging their heels in to make a point, or are they just entirely unaware of casino player’s needs?
I’m probably going to be barred from DTD now, but the sad truth is, I’m not sure I care. There is so much for me to aim for elsewhere, well organised packages, with good information and clear satellite routes. DTD used to be my Mecca, but honestly, now, I feel like I can do without the hassle.
You make me feel like you don’t need me, DTD, and if that’s the case, fine, I’ll take my passion elsewhere.
You’re obviously alright as you are, ‘cos you don’t seem to want to bring your product in line with other operators, who do make me, and players like me, feel valued/important/worthwhile.
Enjoy being “special”, and enjoy your overlays; keep blaming the “lack-lustre poker players”, I’m sure your venue will make a lovely strip club in 5 years time.
November 13, 2015 at 3:28 am
Wow Kat, as usual, you don’t mince your words and all credit to you for fearlessly saying what you think. (Wait for it! Here comes the however.)
However I really must leap to DTD’s defence. In my opinion Rob and his team have done more for British poker than anyone else. They are by far the best run poker venue I have played at and I note your comments about the dealers and the floor staff.
In terms of the small bankroll players, DTD especially via their mega sats offer them the best chance to play for life changing money often with big satty overlays as well as overlays in the main tourney itself. No one else does that! They are light years ahead of the others.
I cannot comment on the casino table games as I don’t play them but like you do I do like the slots and I find they pay out better than the slots at other venues. Though I agree they could be better laid out
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As for the food and drink I agree with you about the food but just do what I do and take a packed lunch and eat during the break. Or order the cheaper bar snacks which are about the same price as elsewhere (and are pretty difficult to screw up) I really don’t have a big problem paying over the odds for drinks and I sort of accept that they have to get some income from somewhere to offset the overlays they incur laying on massive tourneys for the recreational players. I doubt that the income from the cash games, online, casino and food are anywhere near enough.
The down side of spending say an extra £5/10 per tourney is well worth all of the upsides and it will continue to be my number one poker venue.
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November 13, 2015 at 7:05 pm
Cheers for reading and replying!
Got to say I can’t believe the slots pay out more at DTD than elsewhere. That is most likely a puntery perception, I get it myself. If they really are set at very high payout %, then erm… that should be reigned in as well!
Can I ask why you don’t play the tables? Maybe just a rogue tenner even?
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November 27, 2015 at 2:26 am
I have a very simple reason for not playing table games and that is the house edge which I do not believe you can beat.
I see far too many people losing loads of money trying and I even make a point of giving away the match up or “free spins” you sometimes get as a promotion.
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November 27, 2015 at 4:56 am
That’s cool, I know some pit games aren’t for everybody, although the house edge on AR (2.7%) is lower than slots (approx 5%), and BJ is very low if basic strategy is used (0.5%).
I agree that chasing money, or losing more than one can afford is not a good plan! I’ll have to make sure that I’m around when you’re giving away your promo spins!!
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November 13, 2015 at 9:27 am
And I thought I was grumpy!!
I’m amazed having read that, after you told me to chill out for throwing my toys out of the pram about the action-clock in the live 500 satty we played together lol! (And yes it was a daft strop on my part – bad habit of mine) But now I find you are Mrs Angry who would pull the heads of your teddy bears and hurl them at brown piss carrying strippers 🙂
(And how does a micro qualifier transform into someone chucking£150 at a live satty – thereby destroying the logic of spending months grinding 1p qualifiers?)
Anyway, think your comments are, in the main, extremely harsh. Some points I agree with – £1.80 for a DIY cuppa has always wound me up, as does the rather bizarre homage to Trickett in what has always struck me as an elitist lounge that takes a enormous amount of room up in what is now a cramped and awkward layout. But apart from that…
I imagine dates are reliant on negotiations with WPT. The fact that satellites for events start a month in advance is because they throw all the PR at an event to get close to huge guarantees that are basically massive giveaways for our benefit. I think you have been gratuitously rude and disrespectful to two guys, and particularly Rob, who are massive benefactors to the UK poker industry…you and me basically. And they are innovative. They are willing to experiment to their cost to find things that work for us…as is the case with no same flight re-entry. This again is to your benefit as a micro stakes one bullet player – evening the playing field against players who previously would treat these comps as cheap unlimited rebuys. Maybe that won’t work in the long run but at least they tried.
Party software. Agreed – they have had huge tech problems. But you’re a micro stakes player and a huge stars fan?? The two are incompatible – why play on the hardest site of all when there are soft games elsewhere and, for you, the massive value in hugely overlaid satellites/soft fields? I can’t actually believe you are complaining about the satellites on Party!! You won’t find better value and easier chances of spinning tickets ANYWHERE! As for the qualifying methods being confusing…pleeeeaase!! Really? If you win a ticket in any satellite the lobby very helpfully puts a ticket symbol next to ever single comp you can use it for. Not hard to see that any 109 ticket you had could be used for WPT500 satty. And so many of the feeder sats have huge overlays too. They are throwing money at you…there is just no way you can say any of that is bad news.
And lastly the DTD girls. You actually amazed me here because I have long regarded them as the best valets in the country bar none (and not just because they are all potentially heart attack inducing for this 50-something). Most card rooms chronically understaff. You can barely go 5 minutes at DTD without hearing a voice asking if anyone wants drinks. They are fast, they are efficient, they are friendly. Your comment about not seeing more than 3 glasses on a tray is a mystery to me. Unlike other clubs where a valet takes an order for a coffee and scuttles off at warp speed to get it with the rest of the table desperately trying to attract her attention (she being the first valet sighted for about half an hour), at DTD they always check they have all the orders before going to get them, they leave a tray being filled by bar staff whilst taking the next lot of orders. And finally, some of those girls worked like 16 hour days over WPT week, one went rushing off to replace a spilt drink for me at 4am one day and was as smiley and chatty as she had been 16 hours earlier. They are absolute stars and you do them a disservice
Paul Romain
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November 13, 2015 at 7:33 pm
I think the main problem we’ll have is that you see overstaffing, massive value and “giveaways” as a good thing. It is a bit like Christmas, I get it, but it’s pointlessly unsustainable.
I don’t think Rob and Simon should be “benefactors” to the poker industry, I think they should be making a good living out of it. I think the reigns need tightening, and resources/focus spread; a cardroom cannot make money without a casino until the government let them operate without a casino licence.
It’s great that you want to support them, but I feel like you’re celebrating the things that will bring them down.
I think tourneys at that level attract giddy, poker/casino tourists like me, and I don’t think they understand that player. I’m so passionate about this because poker needs to be fed into at the bottom end; NEEDS.
I can’t ever back down on the same flight re-entry! Limit to one, per flight, fine. BUT COME ON! NO. NO. NOOOOOO. £500 into £1000000? It is madness, madness I tell you.
I don’t want to hurt any valet’s feeling, they are all stunningly beautiful. But these girls are not career F+B staff, and some people are. A highly motivated, skilled F+B team member is a gem to any business; I think you do a disservice to those guys but not acknowledging the difference it makes when you get customer service from someone who wants to make their living out of customer service.
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November 13, 2015 at 5:15 pm
Get off the fence! Ha ha, some of the funniest lines I’ve read in a long time.
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November 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm
Thanks very much for making this post; I have a lot of love for DTD and what they’ve done for UK poker but these are points that have long needed to be made.
I would absolutely love it if DTD dropped the promo models. Nothing personal, but I find it all very tacky. I come to play poker; if I wanted titillation, I’d save the petrol and hit up the internet for porn.
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